Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Of Lilacs.

The narrative in Whitman's When Lilacs Last in the Door-yard...

is quite sweeping in it's ability to evoke isolation, mourning and sadness. It captures various facets of grief and death and though it stumbles in certain areas to keep me in cue with the tune, i find it magnificent in the manner it captures so many things, a spewing prose of death and gloom.

Scanning through various poems, which i couldn't feel compelled to copy/paste, i found that their were some vague similarities between Whitman's poem, in the manner in which it delves deep into isolation and gloom by increasing detail and emotion within a single motif, though i found Whitman's manner was more effective. The imagery in Lilacs was most powerful in evoking something in me, though the even that occured so recently in history recalls emotions that are more genuine.

Death is different to those who have and have not experienced it.

Stating this. When Lilacs.. captures death in various moments, those that grieve and mourn as well as the passerbyer(sic) And though all these elements are common and still recognized today, the manner in which they are included in the poems i have read are dull and tend stir up political tension, and politics i fear i what ruins most of these poems.

I get it you're middle eastern in a world that hates the middle east. I get it, it was all about money, or it was a government conspiracy. I don't want read about how it was America's fault, that America brought this upon itself.

And that is why i found Whitman's poem so soothing in that it captures, everything, while leaving out everything. It allows the reader to slip in and experience with their emotions devoid of exterior stimulation. None of that political bullshit.

2 comments:

  1. Yes. You know, I agree. It seems in some of the 9/11 poems that there is this weird displacement - - e.g. "I'm going to write a poem about mourning 9/11 . . . and help you to see that 9/11 is really about [foreign policy, racism, etc.]" I like political bullshit generally . . .but here I definitely see the virtue of W's approach.

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  2. Hi all, this a post for the Allen Ginsberg teaching group. Since I don’t have e-mails, I am sending as comments to each person’s blog. If you can respond to this blog comment with your e-mail address, I will send out the following comment as an e-mail to everyone. Also, it’s not obvious to me who Diana C. is based on the blog roll. Does anyone know who this is?

    So we do Ginsberg on 4/26 in class – which I am assuming is simply facilitating a discussion based on blog posts from the class based on our blog instructions. So it seems like the key things are to agree on (i) which Ginsberg poems to read and (ii) a timeline for prepping for the 4/26 class.

    I have a little experience with Ginsberg (not a ton by any means), but thought that “Howl (Part 1)” and “A Supermarket in California” might be two good poems to use. Howl being his seminal work and Supermarket literally taking place with Whitman in a grocery store. Does anyone have any other thoughts on this?

    On calendar, we probably should get our blog instructions to Prof Hanley by Thursday/Friday next week so he can post and people have time to read what we suggest. I am happy to take an initial stab at this and send something around to the group to comment. Maybe we can then find a time to meet before class on 4/26 to discuss various blog posts and figure out how we want to handle the class. We probably will have a better sense of this once we see how the class on Rukeyser and Sandburg goes.

    Anyway, let me know any thoughts. Thanks, Brian.

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